Comments on: Learning to Jump

By: Tony M

Tony M — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:37:11 +0000

Great information from this story. I had to Stumble this for others to find.

By: Saul

Saul — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:48:45 +0000

How was she able to do a proper RDL if she didn’t understand hip extension? Or was it just hip extension in more complex movements.

By: Rahim

Rahim — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:13:01 +0000

This problem illustrates why my junior T&F coach started all of the young athletes with plyometrics before we began serious weight training. He wanted to see us perform basic athletic movements so that he could determine whether we were able to actually move correctly and to see what he had to work with. These things are especially important in T&F because those movements often actually are the sports rather than just training exercises.

By: admin

admin — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:35:02 +0000

Helgi,

I misread what you were trying to say completely and changed less to more. I changed it back. Sorry about that.

Lyle

By: Helgi Briem

Helgi Briem — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:12:42 +0000

Thanks Lyle.

There’s something strange about the way my post came out and I think it should read: …has also stalled and squats and deadlifts much less than he should..

I.e. he has stalled and lifts less than he should. He also can’t jump. BTW, he is white.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:23:22 +0000

My apologies, Lyle. I shouldn’t stir the drink like that, so I hope that you will forgive me if my post was way out of line. I appreciate what a fantastic resource you are and should learn to think a bit more before I type.

By: admin

admin — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:07:47 +0000

Ivan: Absolutely not. The knee flexion that occurs in sprinting is more of a reaction force from ground contact and the majority of propulsion comes from hip extension. Some coaches feel that leg curls simply predispose sprinters to hamstring pulls and few use them.

Duxx: I agree 100%. Different athletes ‘hear’ things differently and sometimes what the coach is saying and what the athlete is hearing are different.

Matt: no comment.

Helgi: Glad I could be of some use. I misread your post and changed it back to the original.

Lyle

By: Ivan

Ivan — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:14:58 +0000

Lyle, do you think it’s important to do leg curls to improve sprinting?. Does the hams work in sprint as a knee flexors, or only as hip extensors?.

Thank you.

By: Helgi Briem

Helgi Briem — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:26:00 +0000

Amazing. I have a friend who has also stalled and squats and dealifts much less than he should. I immediately asked him to do a couple of jumps for me. Lo and behold, he jumps just like that! I blame it on a diet of leg curls and extensions for years before I got him to squat and deadlift. I’m going to have him do some jumping, concentrating on hip extension.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:51:13 +0000

Great piece, Lyle. I definitely enjoyed a bit of the insight into the coaching side of things.

I couldn’t help but chuckle a bit reading the following

“I think if more coaches were honest, they’d admit that most of what they’ve learned or figured out about training people came from one of two places:

1. People smarter than them.
2. Lucky accidents.

Rather than trying to appear as if they figured out the secrets of the universe (available for only 3 easy payments of $77.77) all by themselves.”

It made me think of a certain Scottish individual who often seems to pose concepts as if he were the mastermind behind them when I often get the feeling that is anything but the case.