What Are Good Sources of Protein? – Speed of Digestion Part 2
Yesterday, in What are Good Sources of Protein? – Digestion Speed Part 1, I looked briefly at the issue of protein turnover and synthesis and then looked even more briefly at the now infamous Boirie study that kicked off the interest in fast and slow proteins.
Summing up, that study found that whey and casein (the two proteins found in milk) digested at different speeds, with whey being a ‘fast’ protein that spiked amino acid levels before dropping (after 3-4 hours), and casein being a ‘slow’ protein that raised amino acid levels more gradually but remaining stable for an extended period (7-8 hours).
Of more relevance, the researchers also found that the whey protein stimulated whole-body protein synthesis without much effect on protein breakdown while casein decreased protein breakdown with little effect on protein synthesis; I’d note that there was also an increase in the oxidation (burning for energy) of the whey protein. Thus whey became known as an ‘anabolic’ protein and casein an ‘anti-catabolic’ protein.
More Commentary About the Boirie Study
One other note that I didn’t mention yesterday. The researchers also looked at how each protein impacted on net leucine balance, that is how much leucine was actually stored in the body (this is used as an indicator of what’s going on with other amino acid levels).
Despite the fact that the whey actually stimulated more protein synthesis, the casein had the larger impact on leucine balance; at the end of the feeding period, the body had stored more leucine with the casein. Phrased a bit differently, it looked as if decreasing protein breakdown was more important than increasing protein synthesis in terms of whole body leucine (and therefore, protein balance).
This study essentially created an entirely new industry in the world of sports nutrition. Interestingly (or amusingly depending on your perspective), the study was interpreted variously depending on whether the company in question was selling whey or casein. Companies selling whey focused on the increase in protein synthesis; those selling casein either pointed to the increased oxidation of whey or the fact that casein had a greater impact on net leucine balance.
Various practical suggestion came out of this as well at least in the world of sports nutrition, whey protein was suggested for first thing in the morning to get aminos into the bloodstream as quickly as possible. I’d note again that this isn’t exactly the case and I realize that this is a little bit confusing. As shown in Figure of in What Are Good Sources of Protein? – Speed of Digestion Part 1 both casein and whey start to appear in the bloodstream at about the same time point; however, whey certainly raises blood amino acid levels more quickly at that point. In contrast, casein was suggested for bedtime to provide aminos throughout the fasting period to stave off muscle breakdown.
Almost without exception, whey was suggested as the best protein for after training to get aminos into the bloodstream more quickly. As noted yesterday, not only is this not true but there is emerging data (discussed in detail in The Protein Book) that fast proteins after training are not the optimal choice for promoting lean body mass gains, slow proteins or a combination of slow and fast proteins appear to be more effective. I’d refer readers back to my article on Milk: The New Sports Drink? A Review where milk outperformed soy (a fast protein) for promoting lean body mass gains.
Others suggested that the combination of whey and casein should be superior to either in isolation; the whey provides a quick hit of aminos to boost protein synthesis while the casein provided a longer source of aminos to blunt protein breakdown. In many ways, this third group would turn out to be closer to correct than either the whey-only or casein-only groups. But I’m getting ahead of myself.
But Wait, There’s More
As I also noted yesterday, one limitation of the study in question was that the protein was given without any other nutrients (carbs or fats) and were given to folks who had fasted overnight; of course it didn’t involve any type of training (which can change the dynamics of how protein is used in the body).
Frankly, the extrapolations being made about whey or casein from the study in question were poor for this (and other reasons).
Of course, later research ended up addressing some of these issues. A followup study titled “Influence of the protein digestion rate on protein turnover in young and elderly subjects.” looked at the impact of whey and casein when it was combined with carbohydrates and fats. And the differences between the two basically disappeared under these conditions.
While whey still got aminos into the bloodstream a touch more quickly, the casein meal still had the edge in terms of net leucine retention. It’s important to note that, in both of the original studies, the amount of protein given in the whey and casein group weren’t identical; the casein group got a bit more protein and that alone might have explained the greater gain in protein.
A third study provided identical amounts of casein and whey in mixed meals to either young or elderly folks; in that study the whey group came out a bit ahead in the young but way ahead in the older subjects (older here means 72 years old). This suggested that, even in the context of mixed meals, whey had a slight edge.
I’d note here that emerging research shows that older individuals respond very different to protein than younger; their muscles appear to become insensitive to protein to some degree and various interventions (such as protein pulse feeding or fast proteins) which spike blood amino acids appear to be vastly superior. In younger individuals, this doesn’t appear to be as significantly the case.
In any case, the data on the topic was clearly pretty mixed and, in the context of a mixed meal (which is how most people eat), while whey might have a slight edge over casein it was small at best.
I’d note that none of the above applies to nutrition around training, which is a topic that I’ll have to cover in a separate article. Training changes the dynamics of a many things including how protein is used by the body so the data discussed so far doesn’t really apply to that specific situation.
The Impact of Previous Meals on Digestion Speed
Finally, before moving on, a final topic that I’ve mentioned above, which is the fact that most of the studies done feed the protein to folks after an overnight fast. While this makes the studies less complicated, it doesn’t indicate what happens when a meal is being consumed while another is still digesting.
Unfortunately, this area is poorly studied, I’m not aware of any work that has examined if the fast/slow protein concept has any relevance to a meal being eaten later in the day. I’d only note again that whole food meals take much longer to digest than is often claimed, a moderate sized meal may still be digesting 5-6 hours later. Even if a ‘fast’ protein is consumed, there’s no guarantee it will still act ‘fast’ if there’s still food sitting in the gut. Again, I’m unaware of any research on this topic.
What About Other Proteins?
So far all I’ve focused on is whey and casein as these are the proteins that have been predominantly studied. Unfortunately, there is far less data on the speed of digestion of other proteins. Soy has been examined and appears to be a fast protein; note from my article Milk: The New Sports Drink? A Review that milk was found to be superior to soy protein for gains in lean body mass with training. This is thought to be due to the rapid digestion and amino acid profile of soy.
Beyond that not a tremendous amount of data exists. One researcher collected what is available and I’ve reproduced his data (originally printed in The Protein Book) in the table below
| Protein | Absorption Rate (g/hour) |
| Raw Egg Protein * | 1.4 |
| Cooked Egg Protein * | 2.9 |
| Pea Protein | 3.5 |
| Milk Protein | 3.5 |
| Soy Protein Isolate | 3.9 |
| Casein Isolate | 6.1 |
| Whey Isolate | 8-10 |
| Tenderloin Pork Steak * | 10.0 |
* Measurements marked with an asterisk should be considered as the roughest estimates as the studies used indirect measurements of protein digestion.
Clearly there is a large variety for protein digestion rates although, as noted, some of the above values should be taken as very rough estimates.
I’d note again that this has some implication for the idea that you must eat protein every three hours. With the exception of whey, where 40 grams of protein would take roughly 4 hours for complete absorption), all proteins listed would still be digesting for far longer than the magic 3 hour period.
Once again, this is getting a bit too long so I’m going to save the final bit of this discussion for Part 3, which I’ll post on Monday. In that article I’ll look at the current fascination in the sports nutrition industry with protein hydrolysates along with a few minor topics.
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I am still wondering where this is all leading to, other than that neither whey nor casein is the elixir for lean gains. What are the real-life implications?
Patience is more than a virtue, sometimes it’s a necessity.
And there is more to protein than casein or whey, as discussed in today’s article, those are just the proteins with the most data behind them.
Absorption Rate (g/hour)
Soy Protein Isolate 3.9
Casein Isolate 6.1
As you have been referring to “casein” in this article, is that the same as this “casein isolate” that has a substantially faster absorption rate than soy? I am having trouble with the disconnect where I thought pea and soy proteins digested substnatially faster than milk and casein proteins.
Wish there was more info on proteins I (and others) mainly eat at normal meals: chicken, fish, beef, pork, etc. Most people get most of their protein from these sources. I get digestion problems from milk proteins so they’re out for me.
Bryan: me too. Unfortunately the data I presented is all that’s out there. In general, whole food proteins will digest fairly slowly (the value for tenderloin steak is assuredly incorrect) simply b/c that’s how digestion works in humans. Isolated protein powders often do strange things digestion wise b/c there’s none of the other stuff (e.g. connective tissue and such) that would be present in whole food proteins.
Matt: unless specifically noted, most studies tend to use isolates. And the study everyone is citing for pea used pea protein hydrolysate which does appear to digest faster (I’ll address this in part 3). As mentioned, soy does appear to be a fast protein and the value above may have been for soy foods (e.g. tofu, soybeans) rather than soy protein isolate. I hope that all makes sense.
I tend to use both casein and whey during the week after training sessions. However, you feel the combination of both post workout is a better way to go.
I will give this a try!
thanks
Patience, Rich, I’m getting to the point of this particular sub-topic tomorrow.
Looking forward to part 3, Lyle – Nutrition is definitely an interest of mine – Good point about the studies using people that have been fasting – Seems like in reality, people would rarely be fasting between meals – especially exercise nuts like us!
That doesn’t make sense. If whey is absorbed @ 10g/hour, then it won’t necessarily get digested in 4 hrs unless you consume 40g. Theoretically, if one consumes 100g of whey in one meal, he’d be having 10g/hour enter his bloodstream for 10 hrs because his stomach can only absorb so much.
On the other hand, if we assume that whey gets digested within 4 hrs no matter what, then if he consumed 100g of whey, his absorption would be 25g/hour not 10.
One number must be fixed, and the other would change accordingly. What is presented here is TWO fixed numbers (hours, and absorption capacity/hour).
Same for Casein or any other protein type. If I consumed 12g of Casein, would they be released over 2 hrs (6g/hour) or over 8 hours (1.5g/hr)?
So could you explain please?
Ahmed,
As I wrote:
“With the exception of whey, where 40 grams of protein would take roughly 4 hours for complete absorption)”
Lyle
Isnt some whey burned during the digestion process? There is more science to all this than the article addresses.
Yeah, no kidding there is more science ot this. It’s in my 325 page book on protein and I wasn’t trying to cover all topics in excruciating detail; that’s why I wrote the book. And no, the whey is not ‘burned in digestion’. It’s oxidized in the liver which is different.
Lyle
Based on the table above, does this mean that 60g of casein before bed would last up to ~10 hours at a 6.1g/hr speed of digestion?
Thanks for writing this, it’s hard to figure out. You keep saying that soy appears to digest fast, and casein is considered to digest very slowly, but here in the table casein digests 50% faster than soy. ?
Also, how could a pork loin, a whole food, digest so much faster than the powders?
The pork loin is explained by the comment after the asterisk: it was estimated. I’d have to look back at the original paper to explain the discrepancy between soy and casein.
Well, i might be crazy, but wouldn’t it be IMPOSSIBLE to digest, say 200g of milk protein per day, since it takes around 57hours to digest… If you were to eat that every day, then food would be piling up in the stomach until you die.
Im baffled. Please explain.
Found this study on the effects of Beef, Chicken and
Fish Protein with healthy young subjects: http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/122/3/467?ijkey=dc8c165bd70680b50b22842743bbd4564b71966a
Is it possible that beef/ chicken have as high as 8-10g/h protein absorbtion rate?
Limitations to this data set are discussed in The Protein Book and possibly elsewhere in this article series. Because one implication is that the protein intakes that we know people eat in the real world shouldn’t be able to be digested within a 24 hour period and that’s clearly false. At least one issue is that with chronic high consumption of a given nutrient, the body increases the rate of absorption of that nutrient. Again, in The Protein Book.
So what you are saying is that the numbers are bogus and that the body probably adapt and absorb the protein much faster, with higher intakes? If that’s the case, you should mention it in the article too.
Deff would not be a bad book to buy, and I am going to consider it, along with your mixed sports.
What is werid is that I thought Pork was slow digesting?
Raw Egg protien…would egg whites count?
I though Albumin was fast digesing?
Tells you how much I know…
Is digestion and absorption the same thing?
Is some protein burned for energy and not absorbed into muscle? Us some protein pissed out or pooped out?
Cadin is slower than whey when those two are discussed in comparison. However casin is fast compated to soy according to the charts.
Is it healthy to have fast protein absorption? It seems fast carb absprption is good for fat gain ( bad for most people, good for sumo wrestlers)
What is needed is a study in which say two groups of very similar traits attempt to grow muscle and one group goes slow absorption (soy) and the other goes fast (whey).
I am so happy I found this website, and this article. I came to peek at amino acid profiles for squid, and I am staying to gawk at the implications for anabolic and anti-catabolic proteins.
I used to study prehistoric subsistence, and most of my knowledge about protein sources and mitigators comes from an archaeological perspective. However grad school made me poor, frumpy and unhappy, so I left. Now I read for pleasure and I am researching my own ideas about the merits of protein and fat diversity. I am also constantly arguing with my boyfriend about his various protein powders and why they may not produce the results he intends them to.
I find this website to be the best thing I have come across in a long time, and I will likely buy books once I’ve recovered from post-grad school unemployment. Thanks.