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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check other articles on the site.  Short answer: no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check other articles on the site.  Short answer: no.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I don&#039;t THINK you answered this in your article but my apologies if you did.

What I&#039;d like to know is whether going into Ketosis means greater fat loss for the same gross calorific deficit than other dieting methods. People often mention how ketogenic diets are burning the body&#039;s own fat for fuel and conclude that therefore the diet must be better than say a balanced, calorie controlled one. This is touted as the reason why Atkins produces strong weightloss in the initial very low carb phase. 

What is the truth?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t THINK you answered this in your article but my apologies if you did.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to know is whether going into Ketosis means greater fat loss for the same gross calorific deficit than other dieting methods. People often mention how ketogenic diets are burning the body&#8217;s own fat for fuel and conclude that therefore the diet must be better than say a balanced, calorie controlled one. This is touted as the reason why Atkins produces strong weightloss in the initial very low carb phase. </p>
<p>What is the truth?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4:1 ratio for ketogenic diets to treat epilepsy is calculated for the calorie unrestricted diet.  When treating kids it is essential to adjust the calories to their weight maintenance levels and then calculate the protein requirements to allow for growth in this kids. Here we have a different situation when fully grown person wants to drop fat. If you consider that when you restrict calories you eat your own fat than the ratio of total oxidised fat to protein would approximate the classic ketogenic ratio easily.

Example:
Protein RDA for a grown male is set as 0.8 g per kilogram of weight. Consider that we have a typical chubby male weighing 180 lb who wants to drop fat to end up being a 160 lb slimmer version of himself. RDA for 160 lb male would be 58g.  Let&#039;s assume that his maintenance caloric needs are a conservative figure of 15 times his desired weight 160*15=2400. Now if you subtract 240 calories from dietary protein from this maintenance figure you end up with 232 grams of fat (dietary or oxidised from body&#039;s stores). The ratio would work out to be exaclty 4:1 of fat to protein in grams.

You could adjust the diet fat content to less than 232 g of fat and keep protein at 58 and in a day you will lose as much fat as the difference between 232 and daily dietary fat grams. Obviously it will be beneficial to not restrict the calories too much and not shock the thyroid but a 1500k diet made up with 58 grams of dietary protein and 135 dietary fat would work fine and make our chubbo achieve the ideal after 3 months of hunger free nutrition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4:1 ratio for ketogenic diets to treat epilepsy is calculated for the calorie unrestricted diet.  When treating kids it is essential to adjust the calories to their weight maintenance levels and then calculate the protein requirements to allow for growth in this kids. Here we have a different situation when fully grown person wants to drop fat. If you consider that when you restrict calories you eat your own fat than the ratio of total oxidised fat to protein would approximate the classic ketogenic ratio easily.</p>
<p>Example:<br />
Protein RDA for a grown male is set as 0.8 g per kilogram of weight. Consider that we have a typical chubby male weighing 180 lb who wants to drop fat to end up being a 160 lb slimmer version of himself. RDA for 160 lb male would be 58g.  Let&#8217;s assume that his maintenance caloric needs are a conservative figure of 15 times his desired weight 160*15=2400. Now if you subtract 240 calories from dietary protein from this maintenance figure you end up with 232 grams of fat (dietary or oxidised from body&#8217;s stores). The ratio would work out to be exaclty 4:1 of fat to protein in grams.</p>
<p>You could adjust the diet fat content to less than 232 g of fat and keep protein at 58 and in a day you will lose as much fat as the difference between 232 and daily dietary fat grams. Obviously it will be beneficial to not restrict the calories too much and not shock the thyroid but a 1500k diet made up with 58 grams of dietary protein and 135 dietary fat would work fine and make our chubbo achieve the ideal after 3 months of hunger free nutrition.</p>
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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked and looked and never found anything to support the idea that ketones were metabolic inefficient in that manner.  One gram of ketones produced something like 4.5 kcal but 1 gram fat (9 kcal) was producing 2 grams of ketones so it all balanced. As far as urinary excretion, the total amount doesn&#039;t add up to very much so I doubt that has much to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked and looked and never found anything to support the idea that ketones were metabolic inefficient in that manner.  One gram of ketones produced something like 4.5 kcal but 1 gram fat (9 kcal) was producing 2 grams of ketones so it all balanced. As far as urinary excretion, the total amount doesn&#8217;t add up to very much so I doubt that has much to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 04:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lyle

I read somewhere that ketosis is an inefficient process in which your body essentially &quot;loses&quot; calories as it burns fat for fuel. That is, the conversion essentially wastes calories such that a gram of fat may only provide 7cal after processing in the liver. I also read that the ketone bodies in your bloodstream cannot be re-converted into fat and so when an individual gets off his ketogenic diet, he/she essentially urinates that reservoir of ketone-bodied energy. Do these statements have any truth to them as far as you know?

For the second part, maybe that also has implications for delayed fat loss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lyle</p>
<p>I read somewhere that ketosis is an inefficient process in which your body essentially &#8220;loses&#8221; calories as it burns fat for fuel. That is, the conversion essentially wastes calories such that a gram of fat may only provide 7cal after processing in the liver. I also read that the ketone bodies in your bloodstream cannot be re-converted into fat and so when an individual gets off his ketogenic diet, he/she essentially urinates that reservoir of ketone-bodied energy. Do these statements have any truth to them as far as you know?</p>
<p>For the second part, maybe that also has implications for delayed fat loss?</p>
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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read the Comparing the Diets series for plenty of comparison of cyclical and non-cyclical diets.

I&#039;d probably suggest Guide to Flexible Dieting for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read the Comparing the Diets series for plenty of comparison of cyclical and non-cyclical diets.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d probably suggest Guide to Flexible Dieting for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a disadvantage of Atkins diets that do not cycle carbohydrates or have refeeds?
WIthout reading your book, I&#039;ve tried having a free day every saturday. It would kick me out of ketosis (at least in the stick readings for 3 days). 

Right now, however, I&#039;ve been trying a free day every 2 weeks, so I can go on a strict induction much longer. So far, my body doesn&#039;t like this 2nd induction period. The first time I lost 40 lbs in 7 weeks, but now in 14 days of induction I&#039;ve lost only a pound..and under 1300 calories a day. 3 days of the induction, I had only 800 calories simply cause I was NOT HUNGRY! Atkins takes away all hunger. Who needs hoodia?? It really sucks to have no results. -- I also did moderate cardio for 35 minutes 7x during the weeks and weights 2x.

I&#039;m not sure which book of yours I need to buy. Your Ketosis diet book? Or rapid fat loss?  It looks like all of your books are good, but I can only afford one. I also know I would like to maintain a lean body. On any strict diet that you lose fat, its easier to put it back on.

Male: 174 lb, 18% bodyfat 

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a disadvantage of Atkins diets that do not cycle carbohydrates or have refeeds?<br />
WIthout reading your book, I&#8217;ve tried having a free day every saturday. It would kick me out of ketosis (at least in the stick readings for 3 days). </p>
<p>Right now, however, I&#8217;ve been trying a free day every 2 weeks, so I can go on a strict induction much longer. So far, my body doesn&#8217;t like this 2nd induction period. The first time I lost 40 lbs in 7 weeks, but now in 14 days of induction I&#8217;ve lost only a pound..and under 1300 calories a day. 3 days of the induction, I had only 800 calories simply cause I was NOT HUNGRY! Atkins takes away all hunger. Who needs hoodia?? It really sucks to have no results. &#8212; I also did moderate cardio for 35 minutes 7x during the weeks and weights 2x.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure which book of yours I need to buy. Your Ketosis diet book? Or rapid fat loss?  It looks like all of your books are good, but I can only afford one. I also know I would like to maintain a lean body. On any strict diet that you lose fat, its easier to put it back on.</p>
<p>Male: 174 lb, 18% bodyfat </p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% normal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% normal.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyle,

Is there any truth to body odours and ketosis? Every time on CKD I&#039;ve noticed strange body odour which I never had earlier in my life. It grows during the week and strangely enough it goes away on the weekend when i&#039;m on carb reload. I&#039;ve also read people mentioning this odour thing on some lowcarb or atkins forums.

I&#039;ve also used ketostix but there was no change in color probably because my body is using up all the ketones (because i&#039;m relatively big and have a calorie defecit) and not much is pushed in the urine.

Any thoughts on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle,</p>
<p>Is there any truth to body odours and ketosis? Every time on CKD I&#8217;ve noticed strange body odour which I never had earlier in my life. It grows during the week and strangely enough it goes away on the weekend when i&#8217;m on carb reload. I&#8217;ve also read people mentioning this odour thing on some lowcarb or atkins forums.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also used ketostix but there was no change in color probably because my body is using up all the ketones (because i&#8217;m relatively big and have a calorie defecit) and not much is pushed in the urine.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Muata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Lyle.  I spent many frustrated years beating myself up because the ketostix wouldn&#039;t turn purple!  Looking back, I think it was just that I didn&#039;t want to believe that I would lose fat by simply eating less.  So, I needed evidence that my body was in &quot;fat burning&quot; mode.  Man, all the urine I wasted on those damn sticks ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Lyle.  I spent many frustrated years beating myself up because the ketostix wouldn&#8217;t turn purple!  Looking back, I think it was just that I didn&#8217;t want to believe that I would lose fat by simply eating less.  So, I needed evidence that my body was in &#8220;fat burning&#8221; mode.  Man, all the urine I wasted on those damn sticks &#8230;</p>
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