Comments on: Ketosis and The Ketogenic Ratio – Q&A http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html Training and Nutrition advice, straight from the monkey's mouth. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:21:30 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: lylemcd http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html/comment-page-1#comment-4102 lylemcd Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:04:59 +0000 http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/?p=2294#comment-4102 100% normal. 100% normal.

]]> By: Adam http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html/comment-page-1#comment-4100 Adam Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:57:13 +0000 http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/?p=2294#comment-4100 Lyle, Is there any truth to body odours and ketosis? Every time on CKD I've noticed strange body odour which I never had earlier in my life. It grows during the week and strangely enough it goes away on the weekend when i'm on carb reload. I've also read people mentioning this odour thing on some lowcarb or atkins forums. I've also used ketostix but there was no change in color probably because my body is using up all the ketones (because i'm relatively big and have a calorie defecit) and not much is pushed in the urine. Any thoughts on this? Lyle,

Is there any truth to body odours and ketosis? Every time on CKD I’ve noticed strange body odour which I never had earlier in my life. It grows during the week and strangely enough it goes away on the weekend when i’m on carb reload. I’ve also read people mentioning this odour thing on some lowcarb or atkins forums.

I’ve also used ketostix but there was no change in color probably because my body is using up all the ketones (because i’m relatively big and have a calorie defecit) and not much is pushed in the urine.

Any thoughts on this?

]]> By: Muata http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html/comment-page-1#comment-2995 Muata Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:42:22 +0000 http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/?p=2294#comment-2995 Good article Lyle. I spent many frustrated years beating myself up because the ketostix wouldn't turn purple! Looking back, I think it was just that I didn't want to believe that I would lose fat by simply eating less. So, I needed evidence that my body was in "fat burning" mode. Man, all the urine I wasted on those damn sticks ... Good article Lyle. I spent many frustrated years beating myself up because the ketostix wouldn’t turn purple! Looking back, I think it was just that I didn’t want to believe that I would lose fat by simply eating less. So, I needed evidence that my body was in “fat burning” mode. Man, all the urine I wasted on those damn sticks …

]]> By: Manoj http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html/comment-page-1#comment-2947 Manoj Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:14:49 +0000 http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/?p=2294#comment-2947 Thanks for the reply. It's interesting to know that I can still eat donuts and lose fat (feels kinda tingly to even write this!). Yes, from personal experience I've also realized that I'm the most hungry on days when I actually eat carbs! If I just don't eat carbs (and possibly go Keto) then I don't get hungry at all! Anyhow, I guess I'll order your UD2 in a few days as it seems it should give me deeper insights into how body behaves on low calories and at low body fat levels. Thanks for the reply. It’s interesting to know that I can still eat donuts and lose fat (feels kinda tingly to even write this!). Yes, from personal experience I’ve also realized that I’m the most hungry on days when I actually eat carbs! If I just don’t eat carbs (and possibly go Keto) then I don’t get hungry at all!

Anyhow, I guess I’ll order your UD2 in a few days as it seems it should give me deeper insights into how body behaves on low calories and at low body fat levels.

]]> By: admin http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html/comment-page-1#comment-2925 admin Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:52:12 +0000 http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/?p=2294#comment-2925 It's a touch more complicated than that as there are interactions with general physiology and phenotype but, in general, yes. Calorie controlled studies (e.g. check out hte research review on ketogenic vs. non-ketogenic diets and fat loss) show that fat loss is identical as long as protein is the same. What may differ is adherence some people find it easier to control caloric intake on lower carb diets that alone can be useful. It’s a touch more complicated than that as there are interactions with general physiology and phenotype but, in general, yes. Calorie controlled studies (e.g. check out hte research review on ketogenic vs. non-ketogenic diets and fat loss) show that fat loss is identical as long as protein is the same. What may differ is adherence some people find it easier to control caloric intake on lower carb diets that alone can be useful.

]]> By: Manoj http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html/comment-page-1#comment-2922 Manoj Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:48:15 +0000 http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/?p=2294#comment-2922 Actually, now when I think of it, it brings up another important scenario - Let's say we have three similar trainees that maintain the same calorie deficit but have diet as follows - Trainee 1 - is in ketosis eating proteins/fats Trainee 2 - not in ketosis and eating carbs too but only complex low GI carbs Trainee 3 - not in ketosis and eating refined sugary carbs (say donuts) Since the calorie deficit is the same and their BMR etc are also same, will they all burn fat at the same rate? Historically, I've gotten excellent results on ketosis but now I wonder if I can be like Trainee3 above and still cut!! By the way, I'm thinking about buying one more of your books (already own The Stubborn Fat) to get a deeper insight into how the body works when on low calorie diets, metabolism, hormonal changes etc. Would you recommend UD2 or Ketogenic diet? Actually, now when I think of it, it brings up another important scenario – Let’s say we have three similar trainees that maintain the same calorie deficit but have diet as follows -

Trainee 1 – is in ketosis eating proteins/fats
Trainee 2 – not in ketosis and eating carbs too but only complex low GI carbs
Trainee 3 – not in ketosis and eating refined sugary carbs (say donuts)

Since the calorie deficit is the same and their BMR etc are also same, will they all burn fat at the same rate?

Historically, I’ve gotten excellent results on ketosis but now I wonder if I can be like Trainee3 above and still cut!!

By the way, I’m thinking about buying one more of your books (already own The Stubborn Fat) to get a deeper insight into how the body works when on low calorie diets, metabolism, hormonal changes etc. Would you recommend UD2 or Ketogenic diet?

]]> By: Manoj http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/ketosis-and-the-ketogenic-ratio-qa.html/comment-page-1#comment-2921 Manoj Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:39:36 +0000 http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/?p=2294#comment-2921 Hi Lyle, Another very informative article there! I see your argument that ketostix are not really an accurate measure of ketosis (and therefore supposed fat loss) because of the reasons you mentioned. But that doesn't imply that Ketosis itself is a useless state, right? I mean if we consider two athletes, one in ketosis, the other in not ketosis and everything else (calorie deficit, training, body metrics etc) being the same; shouldn't the one in ketosis be burning more fat in a given day? Hi Lyle,

Another very informative article there! I see your argument that ketostix are not really an accurate measure of ketosis (and therefore supposed fat loss) because of the reasons you mentioned. But that doesn’t imply that Ketosis itself is a useless state, right? I mean if we consider two athletes, one in ketosis, the other in not ketosis and everything else (calorie deficit, training, body metrics etc) being the same; shouldn’t the one in ketosis be burning more fat in a given day?

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