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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-to-estimate-maintenance-caloric-intake.html/comment-page-1#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Lyle,

I just wanted to let you know that I was a client of a highly regarded canadian BB &quot;coach&quot; who tried to get me lean (in fact he was successful in leaning out my wallet, $1500.00 up front then $100/month).  This is a guy who put Lenda Murray on stage at the olympia. I got suspect when he said it will take me 3 years to drop, and keep off,  the 50 lbs I needed to lose.  Well, at 250 #, he had me on rice cakes,  chicken and potatoes and a caloric intake of 1800 - 2000 calories.  The workout was very intense, and I dropped 13 lbs in about 6 weeks.  Then the strange thing happened, the weight stopped coming off.  His solution?  DROP THE CALORIES BY ANOTHER 200!  Are you kidding me? Even the fat loss layman knows this is probably a bad move.  On to the future, CKD diet started at 3500 calories, 7 month later, A solid 195#.  We all live and learn.  Moral of the story people, those coaches who put people on the stage, may not understand what it takes to get you into looking and feeling good shape.  Anybody can get you on stage with access to cytomel, winny, anavar.  Buyer beware.

P.S.  Should of just bought a concept 2 with the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Lyle,</p>
<p>I just wanted to let you know that I was a client of a highly regarded canadian BB &#8220;coach&#8221; who tried to get me lean (in fact he was successful in leaning out my wallet, $1500.00 up front then $100/month).  This is a guy who put Lenda Murray on stage at the olympia. I got suspect when he said it will take me 3 years to drop, and keep off,  the 50 lbs I needed to lose.  Well, at 250 #, he had me on rice cakes,  chicken and potatoes and a caloric intake of 1800 &#8211; 2000 calories.  The workout was very intense, and I dropped 13 lbs in about 6 weeks.  Then the strange thing happened, the weight stopped coming off.  His solution?  DROP THE CALORIES BY ANOTHER 200!  Are you kidding me? Even the fat loss layman knows this is probably a bad move.  On to the future, CKD diet started at 3500 calories, 7 month later, A solid 195#.  We all live and learn.  Moral of the story people, those coaches who put people on the stage, may not understand what it takes to get you into looking and feeling good shape.  Anybody can get you on stage with access to cytomel, winny, anavar.  Buyer beware.</p>
<p>P.S.  Should of just bought a concept 2 with the money.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-to-estimate-maintenance-caloric-intake.html/comment-page-1#comment-4111</link>
		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece.  I&#039;ve been looking for some validation (for lack of a better term) for years of what I&#039;ve experienced as an obese person struggling to lose weight.  Quite simply, the typical moderate calorie reduction just doesn&#039;t cut it for us.  I started out about 120 pounds overweight and got extremely frustrated that I wasn&#039;t losing weight with any rapidity at 12 cal/lb body weight.  I finally just said screw it and basically starved myself for a month.  It worked like friggin gangbusters and I felt great.  

All generic disclaimers notwithstanding, I think this is a legit weight-loss strategy for the obese that should be advocated.  Mind you, my metabolism didn&#039;t begin to really slow until I had lost something like 60 pounds.  I&#039;m sure I could&#039;ve done it better, but when you&#039;re twice the person you should be, getting the weight off is really job one.  In my experience, tip-toeing around one&#039;s metabolism is necessary for people with low levels of BF, not for the obese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece.  I&#8217;ve been looking for some validation (for lack of a better term) for years of what I&#8217;ve experienced as an obese person struggling to lose weight.  Quite simply, the typical moderate calorie reduction just doesn&#8217;t cut it for us.  I started out about 120 pounds overweight and got extremely frustrated that I wasn&#8217;t losing weight with any rapidity at 12 cal/lb body weight.  I finally just said screw it and basically starved myself for a month.  It worked like friggin gangbusters and I felt great.  </p>
<p>All generic disclaimers notwithstanding, I think this is a legit weight-loss strategy for the obese that should be advocated.  Mind you, my metabolism didn&#8217;t begin to really slow until I had lost something like 60 pounds.  I&#8217;m sure I could&#8217;ve done it better, but when you&#8217;re twice the person you should be, getting the weight off is really job one.  In my experience, tip-toeing around one&#8217;s metabolism is necessary for people with low levels of BF, not for the obese.</p>
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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DJ Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-to-estimate-maintenance-caloric-intake.html/comment-page-1#comment-4061</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about a person who has been undereatting for long periods of time but still needs to lose 30bs and is quiet certain they have never eatten at maintanence for an extended time, should they up the calories to the fat loss mark or the maintanience mark and how long should an undereatter stay there before increasing or decreasing ( depending on your answer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about a person who has been undereatting for long periods of time but still needs to lose 30bs and is quiet certain they have never eatten at maintanence for an extended time, should they up the calories to the fat loss mark or the maintanience mark and how long should an undereatter stay there before increasing or decreasing ( depending on your answer)</p>
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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
		<link>http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-to-estimate-maintenance-caloric-intake.html/comment-page-1#comment-3552</link>
		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric: read this
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/lean-mass-or-total-weight-to-set-calories.html

And fat cells most certainly do burn calories, in fact they only burn about half as much as skeletal muscle (roughly 2.5 cal/lb for fat vs. ~6 cal/lb for muscle at rest).  The idea that they are physiologically inert is outdated and incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric: read this<br />
<a href="http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/lean-mass-or-total-weight-to-set-calories.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/lean-mass-or-total-weight-to-set-calories.html</a></p>
<p>And fat cells most certainly do burn calories, in fact they only burn about half as much as skeletal muscle (roughly 2.5 cal/lb for fat vs. ~6 cal/lb for muscle at rest).  The idea that they are physiologically inert is outdated and incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyle,

When you speak of multyplying  for example 14-16 cal/lb of bodyweight do you mean lean body mass or total body weight? Because wouldn&#039;t someones bf % affect the calculations different if they are say 25% bf versus someone of the same weight who is 12% bf. Because I thought fat doesn&#039;t burn energy.

Please elaborate.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle,</p>
<p>When you speak of multyplying  for example 14-16 cal/lb of bodyweight do you mean lean body mass or total body weight? Because wouldn&#8217;t someones bf % affect the calculations different if they are say 25% bf versus someone of the same weight who is 12% bf. Because I thought fat doesn&#8217;t burn energy.</p>
<p>Please elaborate.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic article, Lyle - thank you.

I came here from your recent dieting breaks article and am still working through some of the implications and applications, especially relating to &quot;chronically underfed&quot; athletes.  Will keep poking around.... thanks again.

Andrea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic article, Lyle &#8211; thank you.</p>
<p>I came here from your recent dieting breaks article and am still working through some of the implications and applications, especially relating to &#8220;chronically underfed&#8221; athletes.  Will keep poking around&#8230;. thanks again.</p>
<p>Andrea</p>
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