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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 05:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, if my muscles with increase stomach size(i dont&#039; see much diff now that i gained muscles, but slight difference, but i&#039;m still gaining weight cause i gain muscles and lose not much fat), was replaced over a long period of  time with fat, then you go back to workout, being in a shape that would require you to build up your body from scratch, both active muscleactivity and silent, is it possible to gain 2-4 lbs a week of muscles, with a -500 caloriesintake? What exactly happens with the fat and the muscles, cause I don&#039;t feel like i&#039;m getting a better shaped body doing this(since the stomach was too big in the first place(about 15 inches too much). I am fairly sure if I didn&#039;t gain any muscles i&#039;d lose about 50 pounds instead i lost only 10 during last year. I know i gained muscles cause i gained 2 inches on my hips and shoulders, and i know i&#039;m losing fat cause the stomach size is going down slightly and so is the breasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, if my muscles with increase stomach size(i dont&#8217; see much diff now that i gained muscles, but slight difference, but i&#8217;m still gaining weight cause i gain muscles and lose not much fat), was replaced over a long period of  time with fat, then you go back to workout, being in a shape that would require you to build up your body from scratch, both active muscleactivity and silent, is it possible to gain 2-4 lbs a week of muscles, with a -500 caloriesintake? What exactly happens with the fat and the muscles, cause I don&#8217;t feel like i&#8217;m getting a better shaped body doing this(since the stomach was too big in the first place(about 15 inches too much). I am fairly sure if I didn&#8217;t gain any muscles i&#8217;d lose about 50 pounds instead i lost only 10 during last year. I know i gained muscles cause i gained 2 inches on my hips and shoulders, and i know i&#8217;m losing fat cause the stomach size is going down slightly and so is the breasts.</p>
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		<title>By: ken lewin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken lewin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ned lemme know when you get a link to show that plz I live in canada and its always cold here ! I could be in top shape easy haha

Cheers
great article man !!

Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ned lemme know when you get a link to show that plz I live in canada and its always cold here ! I could be in top shape easy haha</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
great article man !!</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: TD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For mixed sports athlete (I&#039;m a kickboxer) who wants to add lean muscle while losing fat, would you recommend UD2, LeanGains, EOD, Tom Venuto&#039;s Holy Grail, or it&#039;s better to eat a little more on heavy weight training day and a little less on other days?

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For mixed sports athlete (I&#8217;m a kickboxer) who wants to add lean muscle while losing fat, would you recommend UD2, LeanGains, EOD, Tom Venuto&#8217;s Holy Grail, or it&#8217;s better to eat a little more on heavy weight training day and a little less on other days?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Matty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case other readers are interested in my question posed above; Lyle, bless his heart (lol), did reply when I posted the Q in a newer thread. Here&#039;s the copy/paste.

&quot;lylemcd on October 12th, 2010 12:20 pm 

It’s a good question. Certainly what we know about calorie partitioning and such would suggest that it’s possible, I might suggest that that’s what’s going on with some of Martin’s Leangains results and my own UD2 relies on a similar ‘trick’ (integrated over a weekly vs. daily schedule). So…maybe.&quot;

Thanks again Lyle, you&#039;re awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case other readers are interested in my question posed above; Lyle, bless his heart (lol), did reply when I posted the Q in a newer thread. Here&#8217;s the copy/paste.</p>
<p>&#8220;lylemcd on October 12th, 2010 12:20 pm </p>
<p>It’s a good question. Certainly what we know about calorie partitioning and such would suggest that it’s possible, I might suggest that that’s what’s going on with some of Martin’s Leangains results and my own UD2 relies on a similar ‘trick’ (integrated over a weekly vs. daily schedule). So…maybe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks again Lyle, you&#8217;re awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Matty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in the fat balance equation, and how this would be affected by an IF approach. For example, fasting from bedtime til lunch, with low intensity cardio + yohimbine, followed by lunch/snack, pre-post workout nutrition &amp; heavy weights (3x per week) , Low to Moderate volume. Essentially catabolic in the AM fast, anabolic in the PM with 500 cal above maintenance. 

Could one burn fat in the morning, and build muscle through the evening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in the fat balance equation, and how this would be affected by an IF approach. For example, fasting from bedtime til lunch, with low intensity cardio + yohimbine, followed by lunch/snack, pre-post workout nutrition &amp; heavy weights (3x per week) , Low to Moderate volume. Essentially catabolic in the AM fast, anabolic in the PM with 500 cal above maintenance. </p>
<p>Could one burn fat in the morning, and build muscle through the evening?</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a weak overfat individual and gained strength while losing weight.  About 40% strength (some of it non-neuro, as I had a base of on/off lifting before getting serious last 6 months).  Went from 230 to 160 weight.  I think if you are extremely fat or extremely weak (I wasn&#039;t extremely weak, but was &quot;untrained&quot; and was definitiely very fat) that it just makes common sense that you can do both at the same time.  My focus was the weight loss and I just did the lifting for health (and got what I got).  I don&#039;t think it needs any insulin story to explain it but just a combination of processes.

I think people get in trouble when they decide that they will stay fat and &quot;lfit to displace fat&quot; (i.e. avoid dieting).  Or conversely, they just decide &quot;it would be a waste to lift&quot; and blow that off.  The former is a much worse practice than the latter.  

What&#039;s even more bizarre is some who will say that &quot;lifting prevented weight loss&quot; as if a calorie consuming activity could prevent weight loss!  It&#039;s more the opposite!  Some of them will even insist on this belief in COMBINATION with thinking that it is impossible to build muscle while dieting.  I&#039;m life wtf on that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a weak overfat individual and gained strength while losing weight.  About 40% strength (some of it non-neuro, as I had a base of on/off lifting before getting serious last 6 months).  Went from 230 to 160 weight.  I think if you are extremely fat or extremely weak (I wasn&#8217;t extremely weak, but was &#8220;untrained&#8221; and was definitiely very fat) that it just makes common sense that you can do both at the same time.  My focus was the weight loss and I just did the lifting for health (and got what I got).  I don&#8217;t think it needs any insulin story to explain it but just a combination of processes.</p>
<p>I think people get in trouble when they decide that they will stay fat and &#8220;lfit to displace fat&#8221; (i.e. avoid dieting).  Or conversely, they just decide &#8220;it would be a waste to lift&#8221; and blow that off.  The former is a much worse practice than the latter.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s even more bizarre is some who will say that &#8220;lifting prevented weight loss&#8221; as if a calorie consuming activity could prevent weight loss!  It&#8217;s more the opposite!  Some of them will even insist on this belief in COMBINATION with thinking that it is impossible to build muscle while dieting.  I&#8217;m life wtf on that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ned: I&#039;d have to see a link to what you thought you saw.  Call me skeptical.

Goran: I can&#039;t say if you gained muscle and lost fat, that&#039;s what body composition measures are for. Strength is a proxy but you can gain strength with no change in muscle mass so it doesn&#039;t mean anything by itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned: I&#8217;d have to see a link to what you thought you saw.  Call me skeptical.</p>
<p>Goran: I can&#8217;t say if you gained muscle and lost fat, that&#8217;s what body composition measures are for. Strength is a proxy but you can gain strength with no change in muscle mass so it doesn&#8217;t mean anything by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: göran</title>
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		<dc:creator>göran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyle,

Last fall I i had a cycle where i was cutting and bulking every other week.

For example:

Week 1: bulking
Week 2: cutting
Week 3: bulking
Week 4: cutting

And so forth...

This experiment i kept doing from august until late november. On the &quot;bulking&quot; weeks i had a small surplus (about 500kcal) every day. On the cutting weeks i had a small deficit (about 500kcal) every day. I used certains keylifts such as benchpress, deadlifts, chins to keep track of my progress. During this 3 month stint i improved my bench from 2 reps at 76 kg to 2 reps at 84 kg. My deadlift from 2 reps at 140 kg to 5 reps at 152,5 kg. My bodyweight was about the same during the whole stint (somewhere between 80-82kg). 

So i guess what i want to ask you is this: Is it safe to say that i gained muscle while loosing fat (or at least keeping it to a minimum)? Do you think that i could have achieved greater gains (muscle + weight on the bar) if i followed a more traditional bulking and cutting approach? Im not so sure... shouldn&#039;t what matters be the total net effect? For example: &quot;My approach&quot; with on week cutting followed by one week bulking for a timeperiod of 3 months would mean 6 weeks of effective cutting and 6 weeks of effective bulking simultaneously. Would the net effect be the same if i focused on bulking for 6 weeks and then afterwards started cutting for 6 weeks?

I&#039;m very interested in hearing your thoughts on this.

I have nothing that supports this, but in my mind, &quot;My approach&quot; seems much more logical if one prioritizes staying in decent shape all year round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle,</p>
<p>Last fall I i had a cycle where i was cutting and bulking every other week.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>Week 1: bulking<br />
Week 2: cutting<br />
Week 3: bulking<br />
Week 4: cutting</p>
<p>And so forth&#8230;</p>
<p>This experiment i kept doing from august until late november. On the &#8220;bulking&#8221; weeks i had a small surplus (about 500kcal) every day. On the cutting weeks i had a small deficit (about 500kcal) every day. I used certains keylifts such as benchpress, deadlifts, chins to keep track of my progress. During this 3 month stint i improved my bench from 2 reps at 76 kg to 2 reps at 84 kg. My deadlift from 2 reps at 140 kg to 5 reps at 152,5 kg. My bodyweight was about the same during the whole stint (somewhere between 80-82kg). </p>
<p>So i guess what i want to ask you is this: Is it safe to say that i gained muscle while loosing fat (or at least keeping it to a minimum)? Do you think that i could have achieved greater gains (muscle + weight on the bar) if i followed a more traditional bulking and cutting approach? Im not so sure&#8230; shouldn&#8217;t what matters be the total net effect? For example: &#8220;My approach&#8221; with on week cutting followed by one week bulking for a timeperiod of 3 months would mean 6 weeks of effective cutting and 6 weeks of effective bulking simultaneously. Would the net effect be the same if i focused on bulking for 6 weeks and then afterwards started cutting for 6 weeks?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested in hearing your thoughts on this.</p>
<p>I have nothing that supports this, but in my mind, &#8220;My approach&#8221; seems much more logical if one prioritizes staying in decent shape all year round.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Kock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Kock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen some research suggesting that working out in a cold gym, and generally working out during the winter, tends to help with the fat reduction/muscle gain equation. (Sorry I don&#039;t have the link right now.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen some research suggesting that working out in a cold gym, and generally working out during the winter, tends to help with the fat reduction/muscle gain equation. (Sorry I don&#8217;t have the link right now.)</p>
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		<title>By: lylemcd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lylemcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jad: Right, beginners.

Rohit:
1. That&#039;s what I said.
2. Mechanistically, nobody can say what&#039;s really going on. There is something to muscle memory but nobody knows for sure why it occurs.

Tim: Nobody knows for sure.  Just accept it as &#039;magic&#039;.

Julie: Read around on the site, this is addressed elsewhere and not relevant to this article or the comments section.

Eric: Yes, natural; had I wanted to talk about drugs, I&#039;d have mentioned drugs (they are talked about in the Calorie Partitioning articles I linked).  Drugs changes all the rules and a lot of what people think they can acheive comes out of bodybuilders using powerful repartitioning drugs (clen, testosterone, etc).  So you&#039;ll hear about contest prep pro bodybuilders losing fat while they maintain weight.  What you don&#039;t hear about is their drug stacks.  And it doesn&#039;t work for naturals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jad: Right, beginners.</p>
<p>Rohit:<br />
1. That&#8217;s what I said.<br />
2. Mechanistically, nobody can say what&#8217;s really going on. There is something to muscle memory but nobody knows for sure why it occurs.</p>
<p>Tim: Nobody knows for sure.  Just accept it as &#8216;magic&#8217;.</p>
<p>Julie: Read around on the site, this is addressed elsewhere and not relevant to this article or the comments section.</p>
<p>Eric: Yes, natural; had I wanted to talk about drugs, I&#8217;d have mentioned drugs (they are talked about in the Calorie Partitioning articles I linked).  Drugs changes all the rules and a lot of what people think they can acheive comes out of bodybuilders using powerful repartitioning drugs (clen, testosterone, etc).  So you&#8217;ll hear about contest prep pro bodybuilders losing fat while they maintain weight.  What you don&#8217;t hear about is their drug stacks.  And it doesn&#8217;t work for naturals.</p>
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